New and Updated Computer and Software

I just purchased a new computer and software and it is like Spanish to me; I know a little but not enough to get the best benefit from everything new. So I am learning all about Windows 7, Word and Excel 2010, downloading and uploading, installing, but have yet to transfer any of my old files to the new computer. I love my old computer. It is a good friend and has been with me about 7 years, but she is slow and cramped and feeling her age. I updated her as far as she could go so I had to get another one. This new one is an HP and what they call a small footprint as it is not as large as my Gateway so takes up less room on my desk. I did have to buy an adapter for my mouse and keyboard as they didn't work with the new HP; had different connections in back, so I did that and now I am pretty much happy with my products. I hated the mouse and keyboard that came with the HP, but I will keep them around in case I decide to keep Gateway and hook her back up to my monitor and use her for things other than the Internet, like my old fun games, and family stuff that I don't want to lose or post on the Internet. She is still good for that but I do want to backup everything there so I can transfer it when I decide to. She has 2 hard-drives, one is a backup for the other, but I still don't know much about how I am going to transfer from one computer to the other. I will have to check into that, maybe purchase something to aid me in doing that. Don't really know right now. I do have some Family Genealogy software that I will install on the HP and then try to transfer my files to it from the Gateway via the program itself. That way I can get back to doing some research on my family and on two other family's I have been working on.

I know I was going to post a lot of information here on what I have on my family names, but I haven't done it. I had no desire to start it even though I said I would. All I have to do is transfer what I have in my documents to this HP from the Gateway. Maybe by disc. I have a CD burner on the Gateway but not a DVD one, so it would take a while to transfer it all. I could buy a flash drive which I think would be much simpler to use. I saw one that was 8 GB for less than $10 and I wish I had purchased it. I could have used it for transferring a lot of files over. I don't even know if this HP DVD burner will use CD's. I have to check the book on it. Well, I just read in the manual that there is an easy way to transfer files from one to another with the Windows Easy Transfer. All I need is to buy a special cable to go from one to the other; it says a regular USB cable will not work. Also it says I can use CD's, DVD's, Memory Sticks and External Hard Drives. I am going to get me an External Hard Drive for backup for this new HP; I wish I had bought one for the Gateway. In fact I think I can still buy one, hook Gateway back up and back up the what I want to transfer only, then transfer to the HP, then keep on backing up the new HP to the External Hard-drive. My HP has a 1TB hard-drive though so I should only back up what I want to keep, not most of the nonsense I have on my Gateway or what I will put on this HP as nonsense. I don't need the games, old letters I have written unless they are proof of something, etc. I do need all my graphics, genealogy files, and at least one copy of my pictures. That reminds me, I have pictures on my a couple of flash drives that I can go ahead and transfer now to the HP. So I will get off here and continue working on it. Bye for now.

Some Information For All To Read

I decided I needed to post what information I have on marriages, births and deaths in case someone out there could use the information. There is no search engine or any easy way to search what I put on here, but I will try to make it as easy as possible for all to find what they may be looking for: I will try to put all like Surnames together in one place for an area, while keeping the different areas separate: I will also list as much as possible where I came across the information so that you can check it for yourself or at least have the source citation to use. I may enter most of the information I have into my word processor and then transfer it here when I have it in the order I would like it to be.

This information will not be only those names on my own family tree; they will be names I have written down for use in other family tree's, names I came across while researching, or miscellaneous data I kept. I hope it will help someone out there but if not, it will be posted to the WWW forever. Or as long as the WWW is around.
I may have the information that someone is desperately seeking but hasn't the resources to find on their own.

It will be some time before anything is posted here as I just came up with this idea today and it is going to take me some time to get it together even if I stay on it on a daily basis. I am still doing 2 other family tree's as well as my own so I am kept pretty busy.

See you later.

Not on Internet for an Unspecified Time

I must apologize to anyone who may have searched for and found nothing new on my blog as I was off the Internet for quite some time and just recently my circumstances changed so that I was able to get back on and continue with my blogs.
I am still unable to do Ancestry research or join the other site that has all the most newspapers which I am hoping to find some mention somewhere of my great great grandmothers marriage and or birth notice in the paper of her first child and maybe the obituary of her mother that will at least prove or disprove if her mother died in child-birth, or if in fact she was the child of Servia/Sophia and not of Rhoda as I expect. Of course her great grandfather mentions her in his will, as the daughter of his daughter Rhoda Austin Cole who was deceased, but Rhoda's death date precedes the date we have for her daughter's birth which makes it IMPOSSIBLE for her to have birthed her: unless: the dates (mother's death or daughter's birth) are wrong as it would seem that Rhoda could have died right after the daughter Jane was born and that would seem possible and even right for Rhoda's sister to raise Jane in her household until she was married 25 May 1848 according to some, my mother included. The first child we know of being born to Jane was born in 1853. Jane would have been 11 years old when she married, but she was included in the household of Palmer and Sophia/Servia Cole in the 1850 census being 13 years of age, if born in 1837 and no mention of a husband there. A Jonathan was listed that fits with the earlier census' as being a son of Palmer and Sophia, and then a Permelia who is first mentioned here in 1850 and I believe is Jonathan's wife. I can't wait to get back into my research. I really would like to find out the truth of the matter if at all possible. Either way, if Jane is Rhoda's or Sophia's they both being daughters of Ezra Austin, would make the siblings all relative anyway and the ancestors of Ezra the same. And as I suspect Palmer and Solomon were brothers too, so that side of the tree would also have the same ancestors most likely at least for the generations concerned.
Speaking of research, I haven't been on Ancestry for many a year now so I hope when I return there will be a lot more for me to search than before and when I get the other site, I am hoping that there is a newspaper or article there that will mention my ancestors and clear up the mystery for me. I want to search Illinois also again as I think they may have been there when the census' was carried out and that is why I find no record of them for the year they aren't listed in the NYS federal census. It could be they got married in Illinois or even had their first child there. There are some Cole children listed as heirs in Ezra's will that were in Illinois at the time. Well until next time. Happy Searching.

My Fonda Family

There is a gedcom on Roots Web about the Fonda family genealogy by Adam Mark Fonda. I know he spent many hours, days, weeks, months, and years and plenty of money to make this gedcom, but I warn everyone who does research to not follow this history as if it were completely true. He does have some dates and names wrong so you must do your own research on your ancestry line, not to simply take what he has down as the gospel truth. He has added middle names to some taking the fathers name and placing it as a middle name for the son to keep the line connected in his own mind though there is no proof that the son had a middle name - this also may lead to mistakes in family lines. My own personal family Fonda line is not correct on his gedcom so please do not use it thinking my line is incorrect on my blog. I have copies of birth/death/marriage certificates to prove my dates; where there is a question of parents etc I have acknowledged there is a question and there is no proof as yet to be found by me. I am still searching and will not allow a misconception to be construed as the truth without alerting the viewer/reader as to the problem. Please know that our ancestors know who they are and who they were related to and that God knows everyone and we are all one family under him. This is not a life or death situation, but for purests it may be very important to them and there could be legal things involved in knowing the truth of relationships. But these are so far in the past it is not very likely to matter in this age. We are able to keep track of thngs better now, but with the promiscuity of our children and the sperm banks and the children of those who are not female/male parents it is not likely that our future children will be able to get a true ancestral line if they search for one. Time is short for all of us and we will meet someday all who we are descended from if we are lucky enough to.

Ezra Austen/Austin

Imagine my joy and surprise when I received an email from a descendant of Ezra Austin. She told me that Jane was listed in Ezra's probate records. My question here is, which Jane? Jane Cole Fonda, a grand-daughter, or Jane Rider Cole, a daughter-in-law? I do hope it is Jane Cole Fonda and that he stated in his will whose daughter she really was! My e-mailer advised that she hadn't dug out the files yet on her ancestor but when she did, she would contact me again. I am on pins and needles!! I would wait with bated breath, but am afraid I would expire before I hear from her again, so it's pins and needles for me. As soon as I am contacted and find out the information I will be back here to post it to my blog. I know I am counting on an uncertain lead - so many times, the testator will not be explicit with the names and relationships of those who are listed in the will/probate. I am hoping Ezra was a very conscientious and explicit type of person who would make sure that any names in his will are clear as to who they are related to as son, daughter, father, mother, grand-daughter, daughter-in-law, wife, brother etc. I have read a few Lawyer wills and those are very explicit and you can connect families together because of the very clear lines drawn by the testators.

Until next time.

Summarizing Cole

I deleted some information that I had put on here yesterday. It was too confusing even for me so today I am going to summarize what I know and give my reasoning for what I suspect.

Jane E. Cole, wife of John Fonda:

born in Saratoga Co., NY: 24 Sep 1837 (per death certificate)
died in Fulton Co., NY 6 Jan 1916 (per death certificate)
age at death: 78 years 3 months 13 days. ( per death certificate)

Parents: (per death certificate) Solomon Fonda and Jane Austin> know this is not correct.

Married: John Fonda
Date of marriage: unknown
Place of marriage: unknown

What we do know:
In 1840 USFC: Palmer Cole has a female child 0-4 ys of age=1836-1840.


In 1840 USFC: Solomon Cole has no female children.
In 1850 USFC: Palmer Cole has a female child named Jane E. Cole, age 13.


In 1850 USFC: Solomon Cole has no female child born 1837.
In 1853 Winfield Scott Fonda born to Jane E and John Fonda in Canajoharie, Montgomery Co., NY.
In 1855 Benjamin Franklin Fonda born to Jane E and John Fonda
In 1859 Agnes Fonda born to Jane E and John Fonda
In 1860 USFC: haven't found them yet
In 1862 Edith Viola Fonda born to Jane E and John Fonda
In 1863 a child Charlie Fonda was born and was in the HH in 1870.
In 1865 a child Eva Fonda was born and was in the HH in 1870.
In 1868 William H. Fonda born to Jane E and John Fonda (called Willie in 1870 Census)
In 1870 USFC John, Jane E, Ben, Agnes, Charlie, Eva, and Willie.
In 1872 Erwin Fonda was born to Jane E and John Fonda
In 1874 Herbert Fonda was born to Jane E and John Fonda
In 1879 Mary Evalyn was born and died
In 1880 USFC: haven't found them yet
In 1881 Emmett Blair Fonda born to Jane E and John Fonda in Galway, Saratoga Co, NY
In 1890 Oct 15; John Fonda age 64 died in Fonda, Montgomery Co., NY (per death certificate and W.S. Fonda was informant)(Presumed buried in Fonda, NY)
In 1900 USFC haven't found Jane E Fonda yet
In 1910 USFC: Jane E living in HH of Emmett Fonda: age 74, bore 9 children with 8 living - listed as grandmother to HH, with father born RI, widowed.
In 1916 Jane E. age 78y 3m 13d, died in Gloversville, NY and was buried in Fonda Cemetery.



If we count the number of children listed in the above, we see that there are 10 children> Winfield Scott, Agnes, Ben, Charlie, Eva, William, Erwin, Herbert, Mary E. and Emmett. We also know that two of the children Benjamin in 1906, and Mary Evalyn in 1879 died before Jane E. in 1916. We do not know for sure if any more children were born &/or died. The dates of births that we have are:

1853, 1855, 1859, 1862, 1863, 1868, 1872, 1874, 1879, 1881. Some of these may not be exact as they are taken from the census. If you also notice, Jane E. states that her father was born in RI. The only place a Palmer Cole in the census states that he was born in RI is in the 1860 USFC for Erie Co, NY. The 1850 states NYS.



Reasons why Jane E could not be Solomon and Rhoda Austin Coles daughter:

1. Rhoda Austin Cole died 1836

1A: Solomon and Jane Rider: Jane has no female children listed in 1840.

2. Solomon and female about same age in 1840 Census with no female children.

Solomon and Jane Rider had son George die in 1835, sons Arnold and John living in 1840.

3. 1840 USFC shows Palmer and Sophia with a male 10-14 and a female 0-4. (1837) no other children.

4. 1850 USFC shows Jane E in HH of Palmer and Sophia Cole age 13 (1837) John age 24, and Pamelia age 22 - believe John and Pamelia married.



Reason for Solomon and Jane to be listed on death certificate of Jane E Fonda:

1.- Solomon and Jane may be parents of Jane E. Cole - given to Palmer and Sophia to raise as their own daughter.
2. - Name Austin was remembered because Solomon was married to Rhoda Austin who died 1836.
3. - and Solomon and unknown female in 1840 census (could be Jane Rider);
4. - George Cole, dies 1835, record states he was son of Solomon and Jane Cole.
5. - Emmett or someone in HH stated Jane E. was grandmother leading me to believe they confused Jane E Cole Fonda the mother, with Jane Rider Cole the grandmother. When Emmett was born his mother was already 45 years of age



CHECK: DOUBLECHECK: Gravestones, death records, state census', marriage and divorce records, births, adoptions/church/obituaries and town directories for all the places mentioned. I will check all Mom's research as well as what I can find on the Internet.

Great Grandma

I just heard the news yesterday. My grandson and his girlfriend are going to have a baby. That is all I know right now. No name, no sex, no date, just have to wait till I hear more, but isn't it wonderful!! Another member of the family line is going to be born. Will this child be interested in his/her ancestors? Will he/she be wanting to continue the research? This child will have a couple of whole new lines to work on; his/her mothers and his/her fathers plus all those that connect on those two. I will try to have the childs' father's father's mother's line completed as much as possible. The childs father's father's line has already been partially done and is published.

I know I was going to speak of Scrapbooking this time and I will. This will give me a chance to do a few baby pages for the scrapbook. I still have so much to do; many photos still need to be scanned onto the computer so that I won't lose them if something should happen to the originals. I will be using some of the originals in the scrapbooks I hope to make for different members of the family. And this will be something I know I can pass on to my descendants. Someone in the family will care for them after I am gone. But I am not going anywhere for a very long time except to Kansas City and Indianapolis this year.

Speaking of scrapbooking. I have been getting scrapbooking ideas in the form of a binder and it's leaflets from "Photos, Memories and More" for over a year now. I have started a second binder and will probably get a 3rd and 4th before it finally ends. There are many pages of ideas for every imaginable event or date or happening that can be thought of. Some I may never use, but others I am sure to make use of. Today I hope to have the time to start on some more pages. Later on I will have to purchase more protectors and more papers as I will be making different sizes of scrapbooks. The one I am keeping is of my mother and father and their siblings and children and their friends. It is the largest one, a 12X12 post bound book. The other one I have is a 8.5X11 3 ring binder type. I want to get more like the 3 ring binder one to give to my family members. The best way to hand down your ancestor tree and pedigree along with the photos and history is through scrapbooking. You are able to use everything you can find to make the lives of the people you are scrapbooking about come to life. Those small things that were kept because of sentimental reasons like the wedding bouquet, the invitations, the graduation announcements, birth announcements, newspaper articles, and yes the death obits and certificates also. The scrapbook is about the whole life, not just the good things though we do want to remember all the good things we can about our ancestors. But if there is a criminal record for a great great grandfather, go ahead and use it. Did he get thrown in jail for stealing a coat? or food? Why do you suppose he stole? What is the real story behind the act? Was he hungry and out of work and lost his home, maybe his family too? Or was he just a ne'er do well? Was he a "black sheep" of the family? What makes up your family ancestry? Who were these people who ultimately gave you life? Learn as much as you can about the times of your ancestors - the history of where they lived and what were the weather conditions, the political conditions, the geography of the area; the economy of the times that helped to make the decisions your ancestors made.

And for those of you who are living today - keep a diary of your life and let your descendants know what your circumstances are, what your area of the country is like, what the economy is and how you handled the hardships you face; your political views and the places you traveled and the great things you saw or were a part of. And don't forget to mention the little known things, like a nickname you had, or your favorite flower or color, your favorite food, and did you have a garden. Everyday life may be boring to you, but to your descendants it will be an exciting time in history that they will enjoy reading about and seeing with your eyes. Mention the people you know, or met and how they affected your life. Give a good accounting of your years and leave it for all the descendants that you have a part in making who they are. Until next time.